on Twitch when they're streaming Smite and ask them in the chat.Mages in SMITE are potentially the most versatile class in the game. If you still need help understanding when to pick up defensive choices, check out Zyrhoes, EmilZy, Prettyprime, Wlfy etc. In some cases you won't even need to build protection items at all if you position yourself properly in teamfights, or you end up killing the person trying to kill you first, or you use your defensive relics properly etc. Mantle of Discord), while others may only be useful against specific ones (e.g. Certain defensive choices can be useful against different enemy team members (e.g. The point is you want to build as little protection as necessary on a mid mage, you only get a defensive item if you really need it to survive long enough to do your job. However, I have mostly seen this combo from pros building it on Hel mid (sometimes other mages, but mostly Hel): Shoes of the Magi, Chronos' Pendant, Divine Ruin, Obsidian Shard, Magi's Cloak, Soul Reaver, I may have picked up that Magi's Cloak 5th item in this hypothetical scenario because the enemy team had both a Da Ji and a Ares, or both a Fenrir and a Nox, or both Ne Zha and a Chronos, all of which have abilities that can try to get your CC immunity from Purification Beads, in turn allowing them to easily kill you when your Beads is on cooldown (especially since Discordia doesen't have a CC immune ult unlike some other mages like Scylla for example).Īnd in the case of Breastplate of Valor specifically, you can consider ignoring dynasty/celestial helm, and getting Breastplate of Valor if you're also building Book of Thoth since the mana from breastplate can contribute to Thoth's passive. If I had to give an example of a match where I built a protection item on Discordia, e.g. That example is more of a thing where the enemy team decided to troll by picking 5 guardians, and it's very unlikely it will happen again soon, but im just giving it as an example for a very rare, specific situation. Here's an example of a match where I went 2 magical protection items on Freya ADC because the enemy team had 5 guardians (so all magical enemy team): (Note that I had already sold boots as the game got late enough). enemy team has 5 magical gods or 5 physical gods, you could possibly consider getting 2 protection items, preferably ones with hybrid function - so some form of offensive stat on them). IF you do need a protection item, you shouldn't get more than 1 defensive item in your build in most matches. If you pick up Dynasty Plate Helm you do tend to sell it lategame for Mantle of Discord anyway (usually after you've sold your boots for speed elixir for another item). Celestial Legion Helm tends to be better as a more defensive choice, but it suffers against tick based physical damage like the passive from The Crusher and against gods like Ah Muzen Cab and Susano as they have some form of tick based damage which can quickly remove the passive stacks from Celestial Legion Helm, and since the item's last nerfs I think Dynasty Plate Helm is the better option. Compared to Celestial Legion Helm it gives better offensive stats (as the pen on Dynasty is better than the slight extra power on Celestial), and is cheaper too.
You could rush into it early too (getting it after boots), starting for example: Mage's Blessing, Imperial Helmet and potions. When to pick up Dynasty Plate Helm? When you're getting camped by a physical jungler in mid, and/or facing a hunter with high pressure in mid. It does provide 70 power and 10% CDR so it's still ok stats wise for offense. Stone of Fal becomes pretty mediocre once they do have Obsidian Shard which is why it's not a highly popular item (especially since the item's last passive rework). When to pick up Stone of Fal? When you're getting bursted by high magical damage from an enemy mage mid or magical jungler, and they haven't YET built Obsidian Shard. The most common defensive choices if you need them are Mantle of Discord and Magi's Cloak, and they tend to be picked up at around 5th or 6th item or picked up as a boots replacement once you have speed elixir. The item slot you get it can vary depending on the item you're getting and how much you need it. The earliest you would get a defensive item choice (except for Dynasty Plate Helm/ Celestial Legion Helm) is third item.
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